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North Carolina Bicycling Pedestrian Maybe Human-Powered Transportation Inline Skating Transportation Alternatives Meeting

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Submitted by roadskater on Mon Oct 22 2007 2:51am
2007.10.26 1:30 pm
2007.10.26 5:00 pm
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This is potentially a huge week for walkers, cyclists, skaters and other lovers of human-powered transportation, whether you are from North Carolina or just visit here for leisure activities, or even to raise money for the good folk of North Carolina and the rest of the world who have Multiple Sclerosis, or for other great causes.

There's a bicycling, walking and perhaps skating and more human-powered transportation coalition being formed in NC and being named and defined as an organization this week This is our chance to see if they will welcome us. if not, we go on and stay out of their way so they can do great things. if so, we have lots of great work to do with others who have many common goals and needs.

You can make your input into the name by responding to a survey. Do what you want but I have put my vote to NC WALK & ROLL COALITION or some variant of that (I prefer the write-in WALK & ROLL NC as it's a statement as well as a group name). I like the Human-Powered NC one, and the Transportation Alternatives one too. Here's the link:

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=mPqM6vEhXT2dday62OXY5w_3d_3d

There's a email group you can join, too, if you're interested in a North Carolina advocacy group for biking and walking and maybe skating and similar activities:

http://groups.google.com/group/ncbikeped

Some of the members have been open to including other forms of human-powered (alternative) transportation. Others have not. But the organizers have invited us to attend and to take part as the group tries to decide what it will be.

There's a meeting in downtown Greensboro, Friday, October 26, 2007 at 1:30 PM that is intended to be convenient not necessarily for us, but for people attending the NC Association of Metropolitan Planning Organizations or some such org. They've had other meetings on other days at times that suited people with regular day jobs and such.

Let's go find out what percentage are open to including other forms of human-powered transportation, and get out of the way if we're not.

The location has changed: If you can possibly be there, this is the single most important date you could make in my opinion. Friday, October 26, 2007, 1:30 p.m., Greensboro Jaycee's Building (401 Greene St, Greensboro 27401.

I hope to be there because they are writing the by-laws. If we are not in the by-laws, this organization will not likely represent us in any significant way. They may still do great things of course!

The people behind this organization seem to be somewhat from the inside, somewhat connected and experienced, so this is the first time in a while I have thought it might be worth the effort to show up. If I make it to the meeting, I will go expecting that we will not be enthusiastically included, but hoping we will be.

Whether or not we are included in the group, we will be using the trails and lanes planners make, and they would be smart to understand our needs (and those of skateboarders and five year olds on Barbie bikes and many others) when they design the trails, lanes, bridges, tunnels, intersections and more. But they can't know what skaters' needs are unless we once in a while make the effort to let them know.

If we meet one person who is interested in our cause, it will probably be worth the time.

I think this is the best chance since I started skating for skaters to be part of a group and to get some representation in the human-powered transportation community that is forming in NC. If it doesn't turn out to be a human-powered transportation community, we'll still benefit from their work, and we can start our own group and include them as part of it, ha! No point excluding anyone who loves to exercise on roads and trails is there? 

I hope you can make it! I hope I can too. Let me know your thoughts. Maybe we can add an easy fun skate and bike on the new part of the Lake Brandt Greenway and some dinner afterward. Regardless, I thought you'd want to know.

Please use the survey to let them know your thoughts on their potential name! Skateylove, Blake

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=mPqM6vEhXT2dday62OXY5w_3d_3d

Location

Greensboro Jaycees Building
401 North Greene Street
Greensboro, North Carolina 27401
United States
36° 4' 38.2728" N, 79° 47' 28.6692" W
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Who's behind this?

Submitted by rutlli on Mon Oct 22 2007 2:09pm.
A little more info and I could diary it on dKos.
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What I Know and How to Find More on Bike Ped Skate Run Meeting

Submitted by roadskater on Mon Oct 22 2007 6:00pm.

I don't know everyone behind this group as I did not attend the first meeting or meetings. I assumed an inline skater would just be in the way (I still think that may turn out true) but one of those who went invited us at InlineNC and Roadskater.net to join in the discussion. I think the one who invited us is a "human-powered transportation" type, who doesn't feel you need to limit the mode of transportation as long as it is muscle-powered.

It was this message to which I responded that started a round of discussions about additional names for the group, "Walk & Roll" being one I mentioned, realizing it might be too late, but hoping for a name that does not specify only biking and walking.

While some in this new group are really open to other modes of transportation, others want to limit the focus of the group to biking and pedestrian issues. This is fine, and who knows, maybe better, but doesn't feel better to me. 

As for me, with liberty and justice for all sounds much better than with liberty and justice for green and blue, and the needs of purple might be met by the green and blue group, but only by chance, not by design. But maybe purple should just sit down and shut up.

Many things good for those groups will be good for inline skaters and other rollers, but of course we'd like to have some representation as we're just as "serious" in our use of inline skates as these folk are in their use of feet and bikes...and just as willing to have fun, I'd add.

One place to find out more is:

http://bikegso.org/bigpages/home.html

Note that B.I.G. is devoted to bicycling and supports issues of pedestrians. They specifically did not want to include inline skating, but they have been nice and open to our attending meetings and such. They may feel that bringing inline skating into a discussion would be an unwanted distraction for legislators and government officials, I'm not sure.

However, some key members of B.I.G. have been encouraging of our efforts to represent inline skating as a serious mode of transportation and recreation participated in by adults, and I note that at the August 12 meeting for this new group there was talk of including "skaters" and later, "in-line skaters." Nobody really wants to deal with skateboarders I imagine, but I think we should have a group open to all, as in item 16, because by including them, we have a chance to stress the kinds of behaviors that represent their sport well and can improve access for everyone.

16. Support advocacy efforts for cyclists, pedestrians, skaters an [sic] for all people, regardless of race, gender, handicap/ability, or religion.

This is from the minutes of the Aug 12 meeting, which also includes a list of attendees:

http://bikegso.org/images/nc_bikeped_aug12_minutes.pdf

Attendees were (Name Affiliation Hometown):

  • Jeff Sovich* Bicycling in Greensboro Greensboro, NC
  • Judi Wallace Wallace Consulting Winston-Salem, NC
  • Martha Tracy Hendersonville, NC
  • John G Tracy Hendersonville, NC
  • Al Schroetel Cape Fear Cycling Club Wilmington, NC
  • Dale McKeel* Durham MPO Durham, NC
  • Lynda Schwan* City of Winston-Salem Winston-Salem, NC
  • Rosemary Tyson Bicycling in Greensboro Greensboro, NC
  • Jim Olson Summerfield, NC
  • Carl Fenske Bicycling in Greensboro Greensboro, NC
  • Pattie Moore ? Asheville, NC
  • Claudia Nix Liberty Bikes (shop) & NC Bike/Ped Committee Asheville, NC
  • Ed Harrison* Chapel Hill Town Council & MPO TAC CH/Durham/Orange Co
  • Julie White IMBA? Black Mountain, NC
  • Bill Bussey Triangle Rails-to-Trails & East Coast Greenway Pittsboro, NC
  • Bruce Rosar NC Bicycle Drivers Coalition Cary, NC
  • Kenneth Withrow* Capital Area MPO Raleigh, NC
  • Adrian Hands NC Bicycling Club Carrboro, NC
  • Judy Dietrich Bicycling in Greensboro Greensboro, NC
  • Carolyn R Townsend Pittsboro, NC
  • Mark R Schulz Bicycling in Greensboro GBO/Hillsboro, NC
  • Jesse Day* Bicycling in Greensboro Greensboro, NC
  • Martin Zimmerman Charlotte BIKES Charlotte, NC
  • Alison Carpenter Durham Bike Co-op Durham, NC
  • Doug Wilson Chapel Hill/Chatham Co
  • Dan Besse* City of Winston-Salem Winston-Salem, NC
  • Al Capehart NC Rails-to-Trails Statewide – NC Rails-Trails
  • Hanna Cockburn PT Council of Govts & NC Bike/Ped Committee NCDOT Division 7/8
  • Heidi Perry Carrboro Trans. Board Carrboro, NC

* represents public official (elected and staff) who may or may not be representing their municipality/region or district at this meeting.

I really wish the folk well, and would love to be able to be part of a group that would treat us as important equals, as has been the case in our experience with the Tour to Tanglewood and the NCC chapter of the National MS Society since 1999.

I hope this helps, and if you write about it, please let us know the link!

Daily Kos Diary Mention of NC Human Powered Transport Meeting

Submitted by rutlli on Tue Oct 23 2007 1:03pm.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/23/12928/860
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Thanks for Spreading the Word

Submitted by roadskater on Tue Oct 23 2007 3:02pm.
Great write-up and yes it's good that you took excerpts for brevity! Hopefully some more folk will hear about this meeting because of you, vote in the survey and come share their opinions, whatever they may be. Thanks for mentioning Roadskater.net, too. I hope you can make it to the meeting and maybe we can go out for an easy skride and some food, depending how late this meeting fizzles or bangs.
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More Details on the Human Powered Transportation Meeting

Submitted by roadskater on Tue Oct 23 2007 4:48pm.

I may post the files later but it's just as well that you join the ncbikeped list. If you have trouble getting approved please let me know. They're busy folk so I'm sure it'll take some time to get approved, just like on roadskater.net. It's the only way to keep hundreds of ads postings out.

http://groups.google.com/group/ncbikeped

Then look in the files section of the group for the by-laws in process, the minutes of the last meeting, and the agenda for the upcoming meeting.

Notably, the draft of the by-laws shifts toward more inclusive language. "Rollerblading" and skateboarding are relegated to footnotes, but are in the footnotes, and "non-motorized" is used instead of bicycling and walking. I hope we can get "inline skating" or "inline skating and roller skating" into the language and I hope we can get at least one "inline skating" out of the footnotes and into the body text wherever bicycling and walking are specifically mentioned.

However, the draft at least indicates an openness to other modes of transportation that are not specifically bicycling and walking, and this is a huge reason to attend this meeting.

Perhaps more on this later, but the main thing is:

 

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